those who died are justified;

[reneger]

WHO: jason todd + various
WHERE: ~~everywhere~~
WHEN: August 9th-16th ish
WHAT: grungefest dates, disappointing siblings, ruining markus' life, etc etc
NOTES OR WARNINGS: booze, bad flirting / vague discussion of torture, murder, and child abuse in damian's thread

Comments

[reneger]

I'm not justifying Batman. I'm not excusing the shit he's done, or even saying he's right. Hell, your Bats sounds downright psychotic.

( his is still crazy, but at least not beat your children crazed. jason'll kill damian's bruce if he ever shows up. fingers around his throat, slowly choke the life out of that fucker. . )

You're calling J'onn an it. Neither of them are right, Bats or Supes. Or Ra's. They're all wrong. Tell me, what did Kal do? What did he do when Bats turned off life support? He killed J'onn. You're focusing on the shit Bats did wrong. I get it. He's a shithole.

But tell me, who died so Kal could take over?

[batricide]

Kal saved us is what he did. J'onn was in Diana's brain and was killing her. He acted in her defense.

[ he bristles. ]

Nobody who wasn't trying to kill him first.

[reneger]

Why was J'onn in her brain?

( evenly. they really need to step out of this conversation but they're both stubborn. )

No, I don't think that's right. I think he ended anyone who stood against him, or tried to. Tell me, how long would I last back in your world? How long would it take before I had a Kryptonian-sized fist shoved through my heart?

[batricide]

On my father's orders. Because he was pissed about Arkham. Because he was angry we intervened in wars.

[ He won't. And he glares at that. ]

You are in my world, and you're doing just fine. Kal didn't set out to kill anybody. You don't know him, don't talk like you do.

[reneger]

No. I know my world's Kal, a happy, loving father with the weight of the world on his shoulders.

( doesn't know. knows of. )

But I know myself, too. Not your version of me, but me. And I? I can't stand guys who stand above others like they're hot shit, demanding obedience and order. I'd get right in his face, call him a shitstain against the multiverse. Tell me I'd live through that.

[batricide]

Alfred did. He isn't a tyrant, Jason. He can handle dissenting opinions.

[ if only he knew. ]

I've argued with him. I've done a lot of shit he explicitly told me not to. I'm still standing.

[reneger]

Al didn't demand, he asked.

( jason listened because he respected him. he respects kal, too. sometimes bruce. he's not sure about anyone from damian's world. but.

whatever. a roll of his eyes, and he lets it go. he'd argue this shit deeper, but it seems pointless. damian's either brainwashed or--god, respects the guy. defending him at every corner is fucking weird, especially for damian. jason won't push it further. not after the day they've had already. )

Fine, whatever. Support whoever the hell you want to. 's your life, your choice. I'm not gonna judge. ( much. as long as it's not, you know, actually bad crap. actually he is judging damian. who cares!! ) I'm not gonna follow it either.

[batricide]

It's not your world. I don't expect you to understand.

[ He's trying very hard not to stay, feeling like a raw nerve stretched too tight. ]

Are we -- [ Done here ] Are we good?

[reneger]

We'll always be good. ( a small correction, but an important one. ) No matter what bullshit happens outside--or inside--these walls, I don't give a shit. You'll always be my brother.

And I'll always protect my own.

( protection isn't the point here, but he hopes damian gets it. that jason will stick by him regardless. if he doesn't agree by damian's decisions? he'll still love him. still fight with him, even if they're on opposite teams. )

There isn't a stunt you can pull that'll change any of that.

[batricide]

[ We'll see about that.

He doesn't say anything for a moment. Looking down at the ground, setting his jaw and shifting uneasily. ]

Just don't... Just don't leave alright?

[reneger]

I won't go anywhere you can't follow.

( a promise. jason has the tendency to run off, but damian can track him down. sometimes he just--needs to go. get space. but there'll always be a trail. )