WHO: jason todd + various
WHERE: ~~everywhere~~
WHEN: August 9th-16th ish
WHAT: grungefest dates, disappointing siblings, ruining markus' life, etc etc
NOTES OR WARNINGS: booze, bad flirting / vague discussion of torture, murder, and child abuse in damian's thread
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Or I could be purposely misleading everyone. Making you think I'm going after shit like that when my attention's focused elsewhere. I could have a fake name, a fake identity, a fake shared history--all for the purpose of keeping everyone off my tail regardless of where I'm playing around.
( alternatively: he's just fucking with noctis. )
No one'd expect the guy talking about seedy bars and gangs to actually be working their way up the corporate ladder.
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Yeah? And maybe I'm doing the same thing. [ Fake name? Fake identity? Fake shared history? Well, he'd never meant to be deceptive but now he's questioning himself. So far he's three for three, but it doesn't seem to be hurting anyone. ]
It'd be way weirder to lie about illegal activity to hide your above-board ambition, though. Does that happen a lot where you're from? [ A pause. ] You're from Earth, right?
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the safehouse would be a fine place to do this, or his own warehouse. but this is a nice, neutral zone. full of new amsterdam citizens where they can't get up to too much shit. it's playing it safe, for both him and noctis. probably best that way. )
Maybe I'm just saying all this bullshit to confuse you, too. Never know.
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Saturn? [ ... ] Haven't met anyone else from there. How'd you meet Hafid, then?
[ He quiets when Jason speaks to the receptionist at the gym, taking in the scenery. Weird... Definitely a lot of machinery he's never worked with in his life, and the padding on the floor seems like a pretty generous courtesy. He's far too used to being slammed into hard wood paneling. ]
Don't you have to have a membership to do stuff at a gym?
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jason takes him off to one of the further rooms, starts kicking his boots off at the entrance. he floor itself is covered in padded mats; they're both already beat up enough, probably. )
It was a joke. ( god, noctis. he'd question who the hell falls for the saturn line, but honestly--given where they are, jason can't say it's surprising. ) 'm from the same place as Hafid is. Kinda.
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... I'm from Eos. [ Which he should hope is enough explanation all on its own. He's learning the planets in this solar system one by one out of personal interest, but he's not about to rule out the possibility of some of them being colonized in other universes that aren't this one. ]
Ah, well, me and Prompto anyway. Makes it easy to remember since it's just the two of us. [ ... ] Would've been cool to hear about Saturn... [ goddamnit ]
Are you two friends?
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Friends is. . ( a click of his tongue, and jason steps onto the mats. stretches arms with a thoughtful look on his face. ) We're brothers. Adopted, but brothers.
( closer than friends but also more distant. their relationship--probably doesn't make too much sense for people outside their own circle, that's something jason's well-aware of. hell, he was legally dead long before damian wayne came into bruce's life, but. )
He's our youngest.
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"Our"? So I guess that means there's more of you. [ Noctis lets the information sink in, making it a point to turn away in a short little march over to an opposite corner before he's willing to give into the little smile that tugs at his features. ]
Cool. Seemed like he could use some extra people around, even if one's a giant troll. ... well, actually, that's probably even better. [ He toes off his shoes, feeling instinctively that dirtying the mats even more than is necessary might be frowned upon. ]
I'd say you could invite him out for the Chinese food too but it's pretty short notice.
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but jason's shifting, raising both arms up with hands curled into tight fists. gets into a defensive position. he's not great at this bit, but waiting to see what noctis is capable of is kind of his goal here. so jason'll wait. be patient. let him strike first. )
He's fine, don't think he likes the easy greasy shit anyway. ( with fingers moving out to gesture noctis in closer, brow raising. ) And I'm only a troll when I feel like it.
( so, all the time. )
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Well, you feel like it a lot. And yeah, I figured that too, but I forced him to eat some pastry and then he ordered himself a whole strudel, so... [ Yeah, skills. It's a long story full of harassment.
Noctis steps in closer, already instinctively compensating for his lighter figure with looser, slightly bent knees -- speed will be his main boon here and he has to be ready to dodge. Or, in this case, to strike, as a sudden dart forward and a left feint prove. The false start is abruptly cut off and transitioned into a drop low, leg sweeping out for near floor-level kick at Jason's legs. ]
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speed versus strength tends to fall to who gets the advantage first, doesn't it: distance over brute force. )
You got him to eat sweets? I'll have to congratulate you.
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He's--
He's seriously not as hard to work with as he pretends he is. [ Noctis decided very early on that he's a big softie and so far that image has yet to be shaken. ]
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Oh, I know. Kid acts like tough shit, but-- ( dropping his own upper half down so he can focus more attention, more weight onto hips and thighs. ) he just wants friends.
i'm glad they're able to have this serious convo while almost scissoring
He tests the hold with a tense of each leg individually, holding steady. ]
Yeah, I figured. I was checking up on him, so... [ Friendship isn't something he doles out easily himself but that's for a lack of opportunity more than a lack of desire. Damian clearly needs a few more people around and Noctis doesn't mind the barbs so much.
Jason falls back just as Noctis pitches forward, bracing into the grip on his ankle to help hoist himself up into a strike of a fist aimed down at the larger man's midsection. ]
look they're very serious boys. doing serious things.
and uses the opportunity to try and grab hold of noctis' fist, swinging his free leg over the one his hand had been holding down.
trying to pin him down by both legs and a fist to give jason the opportunity to sit his fat ass down on top of narrow hips. )
That's cute. And sweet.
nothing says "we need to talk about damian" like straddling and headbutts
Well, there is an unnecessary quip, but it's considerably delayed and paired with another maneuver that seems designed to immobilize Noctis rather than do him any damage. Great. Somehow knuckles to his face would sting a little less than attempting to buck up against him and making zero headway does. ]
You're-- ugh, heavy... and if "sweet" was a joke about the strudel, it was lame... [ The attempt at a headbutt to follow, possibly when Jason is about to reply? Is not his finest moment in terms of thinking through consequences or sportsmanship, but his options are limited. ]
this is how true men communicate, right
You don't appreciate my puns? I'm hurt. Really.
( no he isn't. and jason has a thick, hard skull. hard enough that when he sees what this kid is aiming for he doesn't even try to dodge it, just shoves his own head forward to put just as much force behind his side as noctis is on his.
who will win the headbutt war? find out next episode. )
NO, JUST YOU, JASON
The combination of the two has him slumping back against the mats again, hand going first to his forehead to brush it before rubbing agitatedly at his chest. ]
... it's even lamer than the crusty memes... [ why, Ramuh, have you forsaken me ]
SHUT UP HE DOES WHAT HE WANTS
and raises a hand to rub at his forehead, wincing. )
Jesus. What're you packing in there, bricks?
( but there's a distinct fondness to his tone despite the pained expression. hard headed isn't a bad quality to have in this case. his forehead may be sore for a bit but it was funny as hell. )
i hate this
[ There's no malice in that tone to speak of, just exasperation and obvious pain, but he's not about to let either stop him. No, Jason scoots forward to lock down Noctis's torso and reduce the threat of strikes from his upper half and that's practically an open invitation for another form of attack. Legs swing upward in a sudden blur of motion and in an impressive display of flexibility, using the momentum to compensate for mobility still being somewhat limited by Jason's body. Ankles make to hook around his neck, crossing there under his chin if they're given the chance.
This is also not dignified, but it's also just about the only option left to him that fits within the rules of a hand-to-hand match. ]
you love it
Jesus christ, kid. ( muffled, there are gross boots in his face. ) Anyone ever tell you it's rude to strangle people?
( do either of them care about manners? nah. is jason still going to be snarky about it? of course. )
okay fine i do
Tch-- [ The shove downward only has his legs tightening, a lose-lose situation for both of them whenever more distance is introduced and pressure has to be applied somewhere. ]
No, they haven't... And I don't know what the hell "Jesus Christ" is either.
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trying to get noctis to break first. )
Forgot you're not from Earth for a minute. ( a breath, hold on. ) Don't worry 'bout it.
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Fingertips dig into his thigh and Noctis grits his teeth, realizing the need to push Jason just as far and that's the sole motivation behind a sudden far more purposeful flex of muscle that further cuts off the man's airflow.
There is no graceful way for either of them to get out of this situation. ]
Fuck-- Tell me, okay, I'm trying to learn shit...
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moves one of his own legs up even if it does start to put him a little off balance, shoves his own foot right into the other's throat.
these are safe sparring practices. )
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